Section Five: Monte Cristo at the Movies, Part 2
Section Five: Monte Cristo at the Movies, Part 2 (1960-present)
Movies are an entirely different medium, compared to books. Most of the time, movies are 2-3 hours, and with a story as complex as The Count of Monte Cristo, some things are bound to be left out. Movies cost a lot of money to produce, and they need to please audiences and make money. I get it.
There are times when I approve of cinematic changes. For example, Man in the Iron Mask, where book-Aramis becomes a complete d-bag driven by greed for power. He lures poor Philippe into a plot against Louis XIV (and later abandons him), lies to his musketeer friends, and causes the death of the overly- trusting Porthos. Talk about bummer ending- one that's bound to cause an anti-musketeer backlash! So the cinematic re-writes made sense: adding a thrilling rescue of Philippe and downplaying Aramis' heel-turn.
So, back to Monte Cristo at the Movies... there's certain movie-only tropes that come up so often that they deserve their own Plot Points table!
Plot holes by the dozen, setup w/o payoff, payoff w/o setup, new love triangles that could cause post-ending complications, character regression, confusing timeline tweaks and skipping around in time, no "order in the court" with unacceptably crazy things that happen there, or just throw 3/4 the book out the window and make up a new story! Some of this newly-invented stuff is so bad that I'd developed a new axiom: "The further away they stray from Dumas, the worse it gets".
Warning: SPOILERS GALORE!
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Le Comte de Monte Cristo. 147 minutes, screenplay by Jean
Halain. 1961, pub: Royal Film. Starring: Louis Jourdan. Director:
Claude Autant-Lara.
Note: This review is based on a 147 minute edit of the movie. I
had heard that a longer version exists, which might make better sense.
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1-Morrel family saved from ruin | |
2-Franz and Albert's Rome Adventure | |
3-Villefort's secret baby | |
4-Caderousse murders jeweler | |
5-Maximilian and Valentine love story |
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6-Cavalcanti impostors | |
7-Dinner at Auteuil | |
8-Botched burglary | |
9-Valentine poisoned by evil stepmom |
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10-Danglars embezzles money and flees |
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11-Andrea's trial |
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12-Danglars' fate | |
13-The Count sails away with Haydee |
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I-MovieTrope: Albert de Morcerf ❤ Valentine de
Villefort? |
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II-MovieTrope: Swordfight/Duel between the Count and
Fernand? |
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III-MovieTrope: Edmond ❤ Mercedes=4ever? |
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Includes non-canon scenes? Yes. Has newly-created police characters
with their own convoluted new subplots, but drops too many subplots
from the book!
- Adaptation Deviation Score: Moderate. The basics are there, but Old Dantes and Caderousse are warped beyond recognition.
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The Count of Monte Cristo. 300 minutes, screenplay by Anthony Steven. 1964, pub: BBC (UK). Starring: Alan Badel. Director: Peter Hammond.It's been lauded as "largely faithful to the original plot", which is quite true, but alas, IMHO, it also emphasizes the differences between storytelling via the screen vs. the book. For a story that's truly epic and exciting, this adaptation makes the world of Monte Cristo seem so small, so confined and claustrophobic.Once the show dispenses with the "discovering the treasure" part, it all moves indoors. Everything from the obviously artificial and potted plants for "outdoor" scenes (re-used many, many times) to the lack of outdoor movement (e.g. the New Pharaon landing at port; walking the historic streets of Marseilles and Paris or Rome; riding horses or carriages to go anywhere; seeing a semaphore telegraph from the outside; sailing away on a luxurious yacht at the end ⮜none of that here) just screams, "filmed on a soundstage!!!" and "TV sitcom budget!!!". There are a few scenes that expand on some book events. A new character, Mr. Thomson (of Thomson & French) becomes the Count's ally and intel gatherer and helps push along some of the plot. Another scene shows the Sultan's guards ineffectually stretching Ali's arm out in midair to hack it off, without the use of a chopping block. There's belly-dancing entertainment while the Count and the Sultan (⮜unconvincingly played by older English gentleman white guy actor) negotiate for Haydee's price. And, in the meantime, there's no Villefort poisonings (???). The Count bizarrely arranges for Maximilian to "abduct" a perfectly-healthy Valentine (whose life was never endangered), and Villefort's madness is contrived, since he didn't lose his precious little boy (⮜adapted out). The Fates of the Big Baddies (spoilers!):
This production relies too heavily on close-ups and endless talking (usually in a drawing-room). We REALLY don't need to see Alan Badel's face so often in close-up so we can memorize every line on it. I have to say that, despite being the "closest to the book", the low production values, budgetary limitations and a talkathon-styled script make this a snoozer. For something that requires a 5 hour time investment, this is pretty dry and there's little audience emotional impact and it's difficult to feel anything for these people. It all reminds me of the book-to-movie translation of Dracula (1931 w/ Bela Lugosi), converting it to an endless gabfest in a drawing-room.
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Greven av Monte Christo. 246 minutes, screenplay by Sven Lange. 1965, pub: NRK Television (Norway). Starring: Knut Risan. Director: Kent Nilssen, Alfred Solaas.This was really, really filmed on a budget and is the source of unexpected laughs. The very first scene has a geographically-challenged map of Europe. The Pharaon's landing in Marseilles is a tabletop model ship, with a fan blowing its little sails! Chateau D'if is a tabletop cardboard and plaster model! That said, the camerawork is superior to the 1964 BBC production, without the "up your nose/ face taking up the entire screen" shots of the British show.I don't understand the language, and there's no English subtitles, so I'm attempting to follow along using visuals only. The first part in Marseilles introduces us to Danglars and Fernand, both middle-aged, jowly and pretty long-in-the tooth and Villefort, quite a bit younger and handsomer than the other two. With a quick cut from Villefort's office, Dantes gets thrown into a cell in Chateau D'if, with no boats or outdoor shots of the prison whatsoever. Jacopo rescues Dantes from the sea, they find the treasure together, and he becomes the Count's right-hand man, substituting for Bertuccio. Maximilian (not Caderousse) updates Dantes on what happened to everybody. After saving Morrel's business, The Count and Jacopo travel all around the world (implied with maps and a journal). Next we have the abrupt introduction of Albert, chatting with Max. There is no Carnival in Rome, so maybe they're just talking about it. Once Dantes becomes the Count, he appears with an outrageous bouffant hairdo and looks a lot like Gary Oldman in Dracula (1992). We get an actual scene of the Max and Val love story AND the mute and paralyzed Noirtier (this is very rare in any Monte Cristo movie!) and a possible conversation about his will. In a low-class tavern, Jacopo witnesses a young peasant(Benedetto/Andrea) being arrested by soldiers. The young man receives a note hidden in his bread in jail. The timeline seems muddled. At a party, Albert gets upset by a newspaper article and challenges the Count to a duel. On the field, Mercedes intervenes, explains everything, and the duel is cancelled. Afterwards, Villefort and Fernand's trials occur. Are they simultaneous? Last revenge: Danglars is riding away in a carriage. He stops and walks away to a nearby field and foolishly sits, clutching his money, gloating (why???). He is captured by two bandits. The Fates of the Big Baddies (spoilers!):
They had 4 hours but some plot threads were carelessly left hanging...
No Caderousse at all? What happened to Max and Val? And Noirtier? And
Albert? Dropped like hot potatoes? Or was all this exposition handled
by someone talking about it?
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The Count of Monte Cristo. 46 minutes, adapted by Michael Robinson. 1973, pub: Hanna-Barbera Productions. Starring: Tim Elliott. Director: Joseph Barbera & William Hanna.There's several animated versions of Monte Cristo, which can be watched on YouTube. None of them are extremely true to the book, and they range from "It sorta resembles Monte Cristo" to "What the heck is this?" So, out of this motley crew, the closest one is Hanna-Barbera's 1973 cartoon. There's scenes where the animation is constantly reused (digging a tunnel. And more digging) and plotwise, any deaths are non-violent and offscreen.It seems really strange, but there is NO VILLEFORT here. Only Danglars, Fernand and Caderousse exist as Edmond's betrayers, and the cast is similarly trimmed back. Danglars has a daughter, but it's not Eugenie- it's Valentine so the Val/Max love story can be present. Everybody is stuck in Marseilles, so any scenes that were meant to be set in Paris are sent back to the ol' hometown. The Fates of the Big Baddies (spoilers!):
At Monte Cristo Island, the Count leaves his worldly possessions to Max and Val and sails away, reclaiming is identity as Edmond Dantes to live his post-revenge life alone (!). Well, this cartoon is not great, but at least it's not horrible. I'd take even this over the corrupted anime series, Gankutsuou, anytime.
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The Count of Monte Cristo. 103 minutes, screenplay by Sidney Carroll. 1975, pub: ITC (UK). Starring: Richard Chamberlain. Director: David Greene.Not bad, not bad at all! Since this runs less than 2 hours, it doesn't have everything, but it scores more often than it misses. This movie thankfully retains characters like Bertuccio, Haydee, Noirtier (bit part only) and Benedetto. Some plot alterations: Villefort's daughter, Valentine is the one being courted by "Andrea Cavalcanti". There is a younger Morrel (seen at the very beginning of the movie), but he never re-appears as a romantic partner for Valentine.Richard Chamberlain totally SELLS it. As the Count, we can easily see he's a man on a mission, and has the magnetism and charisma to manipulate his enemies into doing exactly what he wants. He smiles, he's deceptively friendly and helpful, and everybody falls for it. Admittedly though, the weakest links are some of the minor characters, with actors with unintelligibly thick Italian accents.
Lots of subplots deleted, and what remains makes sense, but completely
lacks the complexity of the book's constantly interweaving
subplots.The costumes and hair are more-than-adequately snarked on
this other website, and they do make a credible case that Haydee
looks like Donna Summer! This 1975 movie seems to have been an influence on the later 1977 Marvel Comics adaptation (Jacopo and Bertuccio as smugglers who rescue Dantes from the sea; the setup of the Caderousse/Benedetto smackdown; Danglars' suicide; The Count and Fernand's swordfight in the courtroom), and the 1979 Mitsu Yamamoto childen's book (the Count bests a fencing instructor; Danglars follows the Count's lead by investing in the same dicey Spanish stocks). One large deviation that I heartily endorse is the change to Mercedes' fate. In the movie, she grows a backbone, tells the Count flat out that the Edmond Dantes that she loved died in Chateau D'if, and heads for Africa (Algeria) to join her son, who volunteered for the Army. Resolute and dry-eyed, she bids the Count adieu, and wishes him peace and then she goes. Yes!!! Not a weepy, impoverished, helpless mess, she gets a very dignified ending. The Fates of the Big Baddies (spoilers!):
Even though this was a made-for-TV movie, the production values are as
good as any theatrical-release movie. There's real square-rigged
sailing ships, a real port, exterior shots of cobblestone streets,
fountains and period buildings. People are physically ON smaller boats
in the water, and not in studio dunk-tanks or on partial prop ships
with fakey backdrops. Once the "revenge" starts, the mostly indoor
scenes are interspersed with outdoor scenes (semaphore telegraph,
outside courtyard at the Count's house, wooded area for dueling, the
final scene at the docks) which makes for good viewing, and helps us,
the audience, believe that we're being swept into the 19th century.
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Le Comte de Monte Cristo. 350 minutes, screenplay by Jean Chatenet. 1979, pub: Europa Films. Starring: Jacques Weber. Director: Denys de La Patellière.This is absolutely, positively the closest and truest movie/TV series version of the book in existence! It practically follows the book chapter-by-chapter, with the events happening in the correct order, so if that's what you are looking for, this 1979 French miniseries delivers it in spades.Some caveats: it's totally in French, and the most complete circulating copy of it does not have English subtitles. There are a few short clips of it (about 40 minutes, from a different source) that have English subtitles, and those bits and pieces leave me wanting more. The other caveat is the acting style. Once Dantes self-transforms into the Count, he becomes charisma-challenged and has exactly one expression: cold, hard stare. It's a bit hard to imagine him "befriending" and manipulating his enemies and becoming their confidant, as he does in the book. Haydee is a cold fish as well... you'd think that when she has her moment in court with Fernand, she'd show some of that pent-up emotion and anger over what he'd done to her and her family. But when the showdown happens, she could be talking about the weather, and Fernand doesn't seem too fazed about it at all. Danglars' fate is correct, but comes with a sadistic twist. The Count leaves him completely broke and sets an additional condition: He must become a beggar for the rest of his life, or else! Which kinda ruins the message of the book: There's injustice, trials and tribulations, gaining inordinate power, and revenge but there's also forgiveness, redemption and reclaiming one's lost humanity. We don't see the last three in this movie. At the ending, the Count and Haydee don't even look too happy being together. While sailing away, his back is turned to her, they don't look at each other or touch hands. Maybe he's dropping her off at Janina... or something. Because of the amazingly good script and pacing, this movie contains characters and scenes that just about every other Monte Cristo flick had dropped. Appearances by Julie Morrel and Lucien Debray. Franz lands on Monte Cristo island and meets Sinbad. The Carnival in Rome. The Dappled Grays. Noirtier's meddling to help Valentine. The Summer Ball. All of the poisonings, including little Edouard! The Fates of the Big Baddies (spoilers!):
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The Prisoner of Château d'If (Узник замка Иф). 236 minutes, screenplay by Georgi Yungvald-Khilkevich & Mark Zakharov. 1988, pub: Odessa Film Studio. Starring: Viktor Avilov. Director: Georgi Yungvald-Khilkevich.From 1988, this TV series was produced in the waning years of the Soviet Union. The lead is played by Viktor Avilov, looking like an unattractive cross between Rick Wakeman (Yes), Mike Rutherford (Genesis) and Johnny Ramone (The Ramones, punk-rock pioneers) with a truly hideous 70's Brian Connolly (Sweet) hairstyle.Plotwise, the script can't be truly credited for ultra-faithfulness to the source. Starts with Dantes already at Chateau D'if, so all of the earlier scenes w/ Danglars, Mercedes, Fernand, the wedding etc. are shown in flashback. But the flashbacks are out of order so good luck in trying to assemble a coherent story of what happened before D'if. And the script takes its own set of detours as follows:
The Fates of the Big Baddies (spoilers!):
This particular Count is a sociopath. He justifiably wanted revenge, but, unlike his book version, never saw the emptiness of it and never tried to repair some of damage he'd caused. He got the girl in the end, but left a huge body-count of shattered lives- the innocent as well as the guilty and he didn't give AF.
Production wise, the entire film looks like it was shot through a
"gloom" filter, and the script is also correspondingly grim. It's
depressing to watch, and easily the winner of "Ugliest Edmond Dantes,
on the Inside and Outside" Award. It's missing a good number of
subplots, and the pacing isn't particularly good. The rock music
soundtrack which comes out blaring unexpectedly is a constant
intrusion and irritation.
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The Count of Monte Cristo. 400 minutes, screenplay by Didier Decoin. 1998, pub: TF1 (France). Starring: Gérard Depardieu. Director: Josée Dayan.With a length of over 6 hours, a decent budget, and modern-day production values, this TV miniseries is sumptuous-looking and succeeds in bringing us, the audience, into the era. From a visual standpoint, it exposes the 1964 Alan Badel TV series as the low-budget, badly filmed, dreary talky slog that it is.However, I think that Gerard Depardieu was miscast as the Count. His son, Guillaume, played the younger Dantes. The elder Depardieu took over in the later D'if scenes up to the ending. Gerard Depardieu is a big, burly guy, and it's a rib-tickler to see the jailers carry out what they think is Abbe Faria's body, saying, "he's heavy for an old man who was just skin and bones" (snicker). His very unique and distinctive facial features renders his disguises (as Abbe Busoni and Lord Wilmore) moot- unless people were completely blind, how can they not see through this? The 6 hours is more than adequate to present the story, with all its twists and turns. But, a time-wasting, bad new romantic subplot is added in: Camille, the Count's mistress. Every time she appears, the story grinds to a halt, and my itchy fingers were constantly on the FFW button 😡. THIRTY minutes are wasted on her... screentime that could have been better used for truly important character arcs like Haydee's and Villefort's and not eye-candy fluff. Instead, Haydee is just a plot device, and palmed off to Franz D'Epinay when there's no further use for her. Several of the plot changes come off as "change for the sake of change" and don't improve the story in any way. Dantes escapes D'if, and swims to Marseilles, and goes wandering around town, asking about his father and Mercedes, all while the soldiers are looking for him! He becomes a Count, but still eats like a pig and needs Bertuccio to teach him table manners. Camille, a social nobody, sends out the invitations for "Dinner at Auteuil" (risking having key people decline because... she's a nobody), instead of the Count (the talk of the town) sending them. Why??? The Fates of the Big Baddies (spoilers!):
Camille and the Count break up: "I'm returning you to Mercedes..." (Zzzzz). Once he does the handover of Valentine to Max, and handles the last loose end (Danglars), he rushes to Marseilles, finds Mercedes, takes her into his arms and they frolic happily together on the beach.😡
Such a missed opportunity! The perfect basis for the screenplay
already existed- the book by Dumas. If the production team had the
presence of mind to start at the beginning, stop straying from the
source- which only made things worse, and use the book's ending, this
miniseries could have been great, and not just good.
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The Count of Monte Cristo. 131 minutes, screenplay by Jay
Wolpert. 2002, pub: Touchstone Pictures/ Spyglass Entertainment.
Starring: Jim Caviezel, Guy Pearce. Director: Kevin Reynolds.
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1-Morrel family saved from ruin |
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2-Franz and Albert's Rome Adventure | |
3-Villefort's secret baby | |
4-Caderousse murders jeweler | |
5-Maximilian and Valentine love story |
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6-Cavalcanti impostors | |
7-Dinner at Auteuil | |
8-Botched burglary | |
9-Valentine poisoned by evil stepmom |
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10-Danglars embezzles money and flees |
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11-Andrea's trial |
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12-Danglars' fate | |
13-The Count sails away with Haydee |
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I-MovieTrope: Albert de Morcerf ❤ Valentine de
Villefort? |
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II-MovieTrope: Swordfight/Duel between the Count and
Fernand? |
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III-MovieTrope: Edmond ❤ Mercedes=4ever? |
- Includes non-canon scenes? YES!
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Adaptation Deviation Score: Considerable. Is this
The Count of Monte Cristo at all? Nah.
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The Count of Monte Cristo. 178 minutes, screenplay
by Matthieu Delaporte and Alexandre de La Patellière. 2024, pub:
Pathé. Starring: Pierre Niney. Director: Matthieu Delaporte and
Alexandre de La Patellière.
The year 2024 brought us TWO separate screen versions of
The Count of Monte Cristo! It's like having two feasts after 20
years of famine!
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1-Morrel family saved from ruin |
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2-Franz and Albert's Rome Adventure | |
3-Villefort's secret baby | |
4-Caderousse murders jeweler | |
5-Maximilian and Valentine love story |
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6-Cavalcanti impostors | |
7-Dinner at Auteuil | |
8-Botched burglary | |
9-Valentine poisoned by evil stepmom |
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10-Danglars embezzles money and flees |
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11-Andrea's trial |
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12-Danglars' fate | |
13-The Count sails away with Haydee |
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I-MovieTrope: Albert de Morcerf ❤ Valentine de
Villefort? |
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II-MovieTrope: Swordfight/Duel between the Count and
Fernand? |
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III-MovieTrope: Edmond ❤ Mercedes=4ever? |
- Includes non-canon scenes? A lot. The Major Plot Changes constantly introduce Logic!Fails! and reinforce my axiom:"The further away they stray from Dumas, the worse it gets".
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Adaptation Deviation Score: Fairly High. But has more book-related
scenes and characters than the 2002 movie (Caviezel).
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The Count of Monte Cristo. approx 400 minutes, screenplay by
Greg Latter, Sandro Petraglia. 2024, pub: Mediawan rights. Starring:
Sam Claflin. Director: Bille August.
This TV miniseries is meant to "give the series a modern twist while
remaining faithful to the legacy of Alexandre Dumas' work", so that
means that the audience should not expect 100% fidelity to the book.
Things resolve very differently, and in fact, it was rather exciting to
see where the modified script would take us. It is categorized as a
"drama", intended for an adult audience, avoiding the kid-friendly,
non-book, low-comedy of the 2002 Touchstone movie (w/Caviezel). The
production and the costuming here is gorgeous, a feast for the eyes.
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1-Morrel family saved from ruin |
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2-Franz and Albert's Rome Adventure | |
3-Villefort's secret baby | |
4-Caderousse murders jeweler | |
5-Maximilian and Valentine love story |
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6-Cavalcanti impostors | |
7-Dinner at Auteuil | |
8-Botched burglary | |
9-Valentine poisoned by evil stepmom |
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10-Danglars embezzles money and flees |
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12-Danglars' fate | |
13-The Count sails away with Haydee |
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I-MovieTrope: Albert de Morcerf ❤ Valentine de
Villefort? |
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II-MovieTrope: Swordfight/Duel between the Count and
Fernand? |
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III-MovieTrope: Edmond ❤ Mercedes=4ever? |
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Includes non-canon scenes? Somewhat. The scenes and settings are
familiar, but play out differently. Certain characters are removed
and replaced by others, sometimes multiple others.
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Adaptation Deviation Score: low-moderate. This is intentionally
meant to appeal to modern-day audiences and tries hard to avoid the
controversial aspects of the original..
Comments
It seems that not even the almost-complete 1979 version adapted this subplot. only two movies/series did it somehow: the 1964 one, and the most recent 2024 mini-series with Sam Claflin (maybe the only quality it has, I didn't enjoy the dull dialogues and the irrelevant changes to the story).
By the way, do you plan on including the 2 recent 2024 versions (the one mentioned above and the movie with Pierre Niney, both of which are huge disappointments to me) ?
Many thanks and best regards
Thanks for your kind reply! The compliments are well deserved, your blog is the most detailed one on Monte Cristo on the entire internet! It only lacks :
-The Italian 1966 series, which seem quite complete albeit theatrical, but only in Italian (available on YouTube, have you seen them ?)
-the Eugénie/Louise subplot (but before 2024 only the 1964 series included it somehow, more with words than action - as you noted it well, these series are too verbose and claustrophobic).
- the sub-subplot of the execution during the carnaval in Rome, showing the count loss of illusions about human nature, but I don't think any series (besides the japonnese anime you don't seem to appreciate much 😊) featured that part before 2024.
Talking about 2024, not to spoil you, but my general feeling is:
-The Niney mainstream movie, although well made, is a real insult to the book, and the director really insulted his own father, who made the most faithful 1979 adaptation! The numerous changes don't make any sense, are full of anachronism, and, as for the 2002 movie, are only here to please the masses.
-The Sam Claflin series are better, more respectful, and have unique features, like the two mentioned above (carnaval execution and Louise/Eugénie affair). Sam Claflin is a rather convincing actor (much more than Niney) to incarnate the count. Some scenes from the book are quite powerful. But... There are so many most irritating omissions, changes, weaknesses, oversimplifications, that I don't know whether I like it or not. A disappointment, with good bits here and there. It could have been very good, with more trust in Dumas and less crows-pleasing stupid stuff...
I am really looking forward to reading your reviews, I can't wait! My bet is that your thoughtful conclusion will not change, alas : no adaptation does really justice to the book, and the more you deviate from the novel, the worst. Can't understand all these directors / writers who are so arrogant that they think they are better than Dumas!
Best regards
Why not talking about the Eugenie/Louise subplot and the Rome carnaval execution sub-subpoot, both well done in the Claflin series, a real first?
Thanks a lot and best regards
The 2024TV! version has the most complete version of Eugenie/Louise's story, even including the hair-cutting and escaping dressed like a man! The 2024movie! has a very small nod to it. Eugenie explains to Andrea why she can never love him. She loves "Suzanne" her music teacher. Even those 5 seconds are more than what we usually get.
I liked the Gangkutsuouanime, but I admit its aesthetics are strange and its plot is quite far off...
The changes to Benedetto/Andrea, and splitting him between 2 characters (Count of Spada and Gaston the homeless urchin) made Eugenie/Louise's escape to the Bell & Bottle Inn unnecessary because Andrea didn't need to be captured there. I was sad to see it eliminated. That subplot is the best, and gutsy Eugenie is my favorite!
I have a rough essay about 2024 Haydee. It doesn't have graphics or comedic memes yet, but you might be interested in what I think 2024 had done to her!
https://abbreviatedmontecristo.blogspot.com/2025/01/in-year-2024-problem-with-haydee.html
I read your essay about Haydee, and I totally agree with you. As you said it well, the most you stray from Dumas, the worst. They wanted to be feminist.. and yes, they screwed Hyadee's character up, big time.
And the film goes as far as removing the poisoning. Because such violence and lack of humanity from a woman, Heloïse (whom they renamed Victoria, just like they renamed everybody else including Louise - what for?) is not politically correct?
Ii agree with you that the 1979 series acting is sometimes too robotic, but the series are still the best adaptation for me. And I like Jacques Weber as the cold Count ☺️
"The further away they stray from Dumas, the worse it gets"
It is too bad these Claflin series are too flawed, because there are some very good moments. The confrontation between the Count and Fernand is the most powerful I ever seen, very close to the book, "Are you not the lieutenant Fernand... the captain Fernand...".... and it does not go the easy path of a duel. This is actually better done than the 1979 series (a lame, useless duel in the Count's park) and the 2024 movie (a fight to death that seems to be written for Chuch Norris or Jean-Claude Van Dame !).
The Debray / Danglars relationship (husband and accepted lover... as long as money doesn't get in the way) is also well shown.
Even the ending is not that bad. Less caricatural than the Depardieu's (Edmund and Merecedes running half naked on the beach !!) and a bit more hope than in the novel ("Mabye some day"). Not that bad.
This, plus execution in Rome, plus Louise/Eugénie flee... all very good scenes... These series could have really be something, but too much political correctness spoiled it for me.
The quest for the perfect adaptation is still on !
Cheers
Edmund discovers the treasure in 1829.
The Count appears publically in 1838. 9 years later !!
Question, what did he do during those 9 years ?
The answer is obvious: Edmund consolidated his fortune, his knowledge, his networks, and he traveled a lot to the east, to prepare himself for revenge.
Allusions to this period of time do exist in the novel, but rather scarcely. We can only infer what happened.
What about showing it explicitely ? A spin-off that will show these events in great detail, starting from the discovery of the treasure, and ending with the Count facing himself in the mirror, ready for revenge, and somehow turned to the Dark Side :) . Pretty much in the same way that "Rogue one" explicited the robbery of the death star plans in the Star Wars saga, an episode that was only alluded to in other installments, and endup being a very good one, maybe the only good one ever made by Disney !
What do you think ?
"Dinner at Auteuil"... probably the best onscreen version! It's misty and dark, lit by torches. Inside, the Count narrates his opium-induced ghost story, and Danglars (a wonderful, engaging performance) is really into it. Watch Danglars' face and body language... so believable! The tension is unbearable, and when the Count hits the table, everybody jumps.
About your suggestion for a movie to fill-in the "missing 9 years". I'd love that, but I don't think there is a mass-market for it. Movies are expensive to make, and they need to get enough people buying seats in the theater to be profitable. Those of us who know the book well are a minority. The mass movie-market is in for a few entertaining hours and a good time. There's lots of people who only know Monte Cristo from the 2002 movie and honestly think the "life is a storm..." speech was really written by Dumas!
The "missing 9 years" could be a graphic novel. Just don't have Ena Moriyama, or the Gankutsuou crew write and draw it! They would ruin it for sure!
I found on IMDB that there are some series from 1956 that are a sequel to the novel! And it seems they had some succes...
Also, there was some rather faithful (if not theatrical) 1966 Italian series.
Have you seen these two series?
I have seen parts of the 1966 Italian series and it looks good. It has some very innovative and sometime unsettling camerawork, where the camera films the Count talking with someone in the dark in 360 degrees. But since the excitement is on the two 2024 screen versions, I have a lot on my plate and cannot fully view the 1966 Italian one just yet. So much else to do.
Would love to have a translation of the 1966 series. I don't speak Italian, and I don't think it was ever on DVD with subtitles...
I'm disappointed that despite numerous screen adaptations we still don't (in my opinion) have one that competently captures the incredibly high highs of the novel. Not that there is such a thing a as a perfect adaptation, but each adaptation so far has its strengths and weaknesses and I'd love to one day see each element done justice in one grand work. This has been on my mind so much after finishing the book that I've thought about writing my own screenplay despite never having an interest in filmmaking before now!
For now we follow Edmond's wisdom to wait and hope!
So yeah, even though 2024 brought us TWO screen versions of Monte Cristo, neither followed the book 100%, or even 80%. It is a little disappointing that 2024TV! had such potential. They already had the cast, and location settings, the length and the budget to do Dumas justice, but didn't. All they needed was a Dumas-based script, like several of the earlier movie/TV series had and give the actors the right lines. But 21st century sensibilities got in the way, sanding off the Count's more unsavory edge and methods. And then there is "the Problem With Haydee" and neither 2024 version solved it plausibly nor satisfactorily.
It really does seem that the ones with the "closest to Dumas" scripts (20th century) have their own problems, like filmed-on-the-cheap and atrocious camerawork, or the almost-perfect script and a horrendous directorial choice in remaking the Count as "the Iceman". Or that ugly Soviet version.
And so we still wait, and TBH, even if something pops up in the next 20 years, I know better than to expect the Ultimate Monte Cristo Onscreen. It seems that there are always countless new modern remakes of "The Classics" and the trend is to constantly tweak them and NOT even TRY for book accuracy, such as "The GQ Musketeers" in 2011 (that franchise gets steadily worse as time goes on).
I find you severe with Jacques Weber. He does a great job, and is not *that* icy. When Mercedes comes to him to beg for Albert's life, he shows a lot of despair and emotion...
Angele is a "tough woman" and she threatens Danglars. She has "friends" that will kill him if he tells anyone about the letter.
She dresses like a Pirate Lady.
She sees Villefort to blackmail him to release Edmond, or else she'll tell everyone bout his mistress and unborn baby. "Victoria/Hermine" is at least 5-6 months pregnant. We can see that.
VIllefort strangles her unconscious, and Danglars sells her into prostitution. Fernand and Victoria just watch.
Within 3 months, she "escapes" and doesn't see her "friends" to kill Danglars and Villefort. If I was in her situation, I would! Instead she snoops around Paris and follows Victoria, now at term, who's walking around town in snowy weather like it's a normal day and that very night, Victoria gives birth!
Angele intends to stab Villefort (she should have had her "friends" do that!). She sees him burying a box with a baby and she takes the baby. She had to spend at least some time with the kid, because he knows and bonds with her, right? 3 years? 4 years? Otherwise Andre would go, "Angele who? Why should I care?"
She's found and brought back into prostitution, and in current movie time, she's dying, maybe of a STD. She wants the Count to save the child, Andre.
Andre grows up under the Count and becomes a loose cannon. He really was intent on smashing Albert's skull during the mugging! But the Count tells Andre to "Stop!". What does Andre have against Albert?
Much, much later, Andre exposes Villefort as his baby-daddy. Andre stabs VIllefort to death "for Angele", but it was Danglars who sold Angele into prostitution, so why didn't he try to kill Danglars too? And Fernand, since he was almost going to beat Albert to death earlier? Just kill 'em all, Andre!
All these people who think they are more intelligent than Dumas, but are in fact less intelligent than Jean-Claude Vandamme, really pisses me off. When I think the director is the son of the director of the 1979 version, which was so respectful! The father must turn back in his grave...
I have just offered to a dear lady friend of mine, for her birthday, the novel + the 1979 dvd. She loved the Niney movie, and I felt she had to be rescued!
I think Jacques Weber'icy count is quite realistic, and he can stil show emotion, for instance when Mercedes goes to him to beg for Albert's life.
I did like Sam Claflin's acting very much, maybe the best of all, half way between coldness and rage, quite a good job. With a better script it would have been perfect.